Apr 25, 2018

2018 ADI Surgery Jan 2018


No real issues so far in the group attending the meeting. One ADI present had only had chance to sit in on the back of one test so far and they completed a parallel park. They had not seen the pull up on the right manoeuvre yet.


Pete said that some feedback from examiners on the pull up right and reverse was that observations during the manoeuvre were an issue. Candidates were reversing back, but not looking over their right shoulder or all round, merely looking to the left. This could lead to serious faults where there was risk, as there was activity in a driveway or a pedestrian and the candidate paid no attention to them. Candidates should ask themselves “what if”

Candidates have also continued reversing back with oncoming cars coming from both ahead and behind, creating more of a moving hazard rather than waiting as the other cars try to pass. This is not to say that they should always stop, a number of factors such as the width of the road and space around, what other activity is taking place should also be considered. It is not black and white.

Examiners will only ask candidates to pull over right in a suitable low to medium traffic-flow road. They will not choose a road that is too busy.

The question was asked whether a candidate can stop in the centre of the road, before moving over to the right. David answered yes, a number of issues have arisen on tests so far when the candidate is asked to pull up on the right and stop and there was oncoming traffic and instead of pausing in the centre waiting for the traffic to pass and then moving over, they have continued to drive and got further and further along the road and then taken a risk pulling over when not safe.

Feedback from the DVSA team who implemented the test regarding the satnav was that candidates across the country have been focusing on the screen for too long. The best way of using the sat nav is to listen for directions and then, when safe have a quick glance at the screen to reinforce which road is needed. Locally, candidates are having issues with how far 200/300yards are though, so Dave asked that we train candidates to be aware and judge distances. The satnav gives 2 directions, one quite far in advance and then another just before the turn. Examiners will clarify directions if the satnav is misleading such as saying turn left when it is a bend. They won’t necessarily step in if there are roads close to each other, as the candidate should be able to multitask and glance at the screen.

The question was asked about positioning of the satnav on test. DVSA Health and Safety means examiners have 3 choices. The first choice would be in the centre of the dash on the mat. Second choice would be in the centre attached to windscreen. Final choice would be bottom right side of screen. The decision for placing the satnav is down to the examiner. The candidate cannot request an alternative or ask for it to be moved.

Pete would like to pass on his thanks for ADI’s in avoiding local car parks that could be used for test as previously listed. So far they have had no local issues and that is through us all working together. There are however still some ADI’s who are persistently using these car parks for practice. These will be spoken with.

The question was asked whether it was acceptable for a candidate to swing out to complete a forward bay park. Such as moving out to the right before a forward bay park on the left. This is acceptable on test, but the candidate must be making suitable observations and checks around. Along a similar note, if a candidate needs to reverse out to correct a forward bay park then they should be making all round observations. Examiners have had candidates on test who have reversed back and completely out of the space to correct, with no rear observations at all.

David asked could we pass it on to check that all cars are ready and prepared for an emergency stop on test. On a recent test a bottle of wine was left loose on the back seat. But also remember about books, folders etc that are sometimes left in the back of the car, can these please be cleared away prior to tests.

Issues regarding the show me questions on the move. There have been candidates who cannot multitask and have taken their eyes off the road to look around the car for controls, resulting in examiners having to step in and control the situation leading to serious faults. The question was raised whether on some cars, if the fluid was not obvious (such as brake fluid) is it acceptable to say that the car would have a warning message displayed. Pete said that yes, examiners were aware that on some cars you cannot see the fluids. However if the reservoir was visible, candidates should still be able to point out where it is and mention the min/max markings.

There were no further issues and the meeting finished at 4:50pm. Pete thanked everyone for attending.